TOWNSHIP OF WALL

ZONING BOARD OF ADJUSTMENT

MINUTES OF THE REGULAR MEET

HELD IN THE MUNICIPAL MEETING ROOM

DECEMBER 5, 2001

 

The Regular Meeting of the Wall Township Board of Adjustment was called to order by Chairman Noorigian at 7:30 P.M.  Members present were Chairman Noorigian, Vice Chairman Clayton, Mary DeSarno, Thomas Grasso, Ralph Addonizio, Anthony Rembiszewski, first alternate Mark Brosnan, second alternate Wilma Morrissey, Attorney Hirsch, Planning Coordinator Pam D’Andrea, Recording Secretary Betty Schinestuhl,  Engineer Glenn Gerken, Planner John Maczuga and Reporter Arnone.

 

Attorney Hirsch announced that all requirements under the Open Public Meetings Act had been complied with for this meeting and read the purposes of the Board of Adjustment.

 

Chairman Noorigian stated there are four applications scheduled for this evening.  Amerada Hess is being carried to February 6, 2002.  Meccia will be heard first.

 

Mr. Cinelli arrived at 7:40 P.M.

 

CARRIED APPLICATION

 

CASE #BA15-2001 – Date application complete:  May 15, 2001.  Carried from August 1, 2001, September 5, 2001 and November 7, 2001

 

APPLICANT:  CHRISTOPHER MECCIA

 

PROPERTY:  1640 Martin Road, Block 943, Lot 16, R-60 Zone

 

RELIEF REQUESTED:  Bulk Variance

 

Timothy B. Middleton, Esq. appeared for the applicant.

 

Attorney Middleton said at the first meeting the applicant testified.  History of the property was given.  The neighbors spoke at that meeting.  The engineer spoke about the letter of interpretation that was received from the DEP delineating the wetlands.  This is an undersized lot.  The adjoining property owners were asked if they would consider selling a portion of their property.  The Simms property is a flag lot.  In Wall Township flag lots are required to have double the property required.  That requirement makes the Simms property undersized.  The applicant offered his property to the adjoining neighbors.  They said no.  Attorney Middleton stated Mr. Lawrence could not make the meeting this evening.  The Township engineer has visited the property maybe he can answer the neighbor’s questions.  The wetlands have been delineated. 

 

Mr. Gerken said he visited the site.  He said the Board is concerned about this property.  The applicant has an LOI.  He said it would be beneficial for the applicant to have a grading plan done.  He said if the grading is changed more than 2½” they need a variance.  The LOI goes with the land. 


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Attorney Middleton stated if a grading plan is needed before approval they will submit one.  He said the applicant requests that this application be carried.  The applicant will submit the grading

plan to Mr. Gerken before the next meeting.  Mr. Gerken suggested also doing a buffering averaging. 

 

Mr. Clayton said he would like to see the stream on the plans.  Attorney Middleton said he does not believe the stream is on the Meccia property.

 

Mr. Grasso said he believes the stream will take a change in path because of the heavy equipment on the property.  He said he believes that lot was once dry.  He said he believes the wet was created.  He said he has some concerns about building a home on a wet piece of property. 

 

Robert Shimko, 1636 Martin Road, stated this application has been going on for five months.  Mr. Shimko stated the applicant should have provided all the information by now. 

 

Attorney Middleton explained the applicant’s engineer had a stroke. 

 

Chairman Noorigian said this application will be carried. 

 

Attorney Middleton said the applicant will hire a new engineer. 

 

Chairman Noorigian said this application will be carried to February 20, 2002.  Attorney Middleton waived the time limits.

 

CASE #BA27-2001:  Date application complete:  September 28, 2001.  Carried from November 7, 2001

 

APPLICANT:  KIRK AND TAMMY BENNETT

 

PROPERTY:  1203 Remsen Mill Road, Block 355, Lot 17, R-60 Zone

 

RELIEF REQUESTED:  Use variance

 

Chairman Noorigian noted that Kirk and Tammy Bennett were sworn at the last meeting and they are still under oath.  He stated two members were not at the last meeting.  Mr. Cinelli is not available to vote.  Attorney Hirsch explained Mr. Addonizio listened to the tapes of that meeting and is available to vote. 

 

Entered into evidence:

 

A-16    Letter from Greg Kirk dated November 19, 2001

 

Attorney Hirsch explained there are two residences on one lot.  It is a pre-existing non-conforming use.  The Construction Official stated the damage is 40% – 45%.  The Board has to consider the applicant can build the house the same size it was.  If they are going to tear it down


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they need a variance for the pre-existing non-conforming use.  Attorney Hirsch explained the application.

 

Mr. Addonizio said they don’t have to rebuild it and keep the cinderblock wall.  You can tear one wall down and rebuild it.  He said his understanding is that they want to build a bigger house and that is why they are here.  They are going from a 1,500 s.f. house to a 2,000 s.f. house.  The 2,000 s.f. house would fit more in with the neighborhood.

 

Mr. Grasso said the Board has a chance to bring the property into conformity.  He said this property is not in keeping with the neighborhood.  They are relying on the income from the garage apartment to sustain themselves through this process.

 

Mr. Addonizio asked how long the apartment has been in existence.  Mrs. Bennett said since 1968.

 

Mr. Addonizio asked how big is the apartment.  Mrs. Bennett said 500 s.f.

 

Mr. Addonizio asked if the Bennett family lived there.  Mrs. Bennett said yes.

 

Mr. Addonizio asked how are the conditions.  Mrs. Bennett said they are very cramped.

 

Mr. Addonizio asked how many bedrooms.  Mrs. Bennett said one. 

 

Mr. Addonizio asked how many other rooms there were.  Mrs. Bennett said there is one bedroom, a living room, kitchen and a bathroom.

 

Mr. Addonizio asked how many people could live in the apartment comfortably.  Mrs. Bennett said 1 – 2 adults.

 

Mr. Addonizio asked if the previous owner rented this apartment.  Mrs. Bennett said yes.

 

Mr. Addonizio asked how long have the Bennett’s lived in Wall.  Mrs. Bennett said she has lived here 8 years and her husband has lived here all his life.

 

Mrs. DeSarno asked to see a photo of the proposed house.   Mrs. DeSarno asked if the applicant has thought about changing the roof.  Mrs. Bennett said both roofs would be pitched.  Mrs. DeSarno asked if they would all match.  Mrs. Bennett said yes.

 

Mr. Maczuga asked if Mrs. DeSarno was talking about the second structure.  He said they need a variance to pitch the roof. 

 

Mr. Clayton said there was some testimony about joining the garage and the house.  He asked how much impact that would have regarding the roof.  Mr. Clayton asked if there were any records showing how long the apartment has been rented.

 

Mrs. Bennett said it has been rented since 1968.


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Entered into evidence:

 

A-17    Tax assessment showing the garage apartment being in existence

 

Attorney Middleton said the zoning laws were modified in the 50’s and then again in the 60’s. 

 

Mr. Grasso said a two family dwelling is not in keeping with the neighborhood.  He said if the garage apartment stays there would be an impact on the Township and the schools.

 

Mrs. Bennett said a one bedroom apartment can only be rented to a certain amount of people.  She said it is just a one bedroom apartment. 

 

Mr. Grasso said if you were to rent the apartment to a young couple and they had children you could not turn them away.  He said this would not be in conformity with the neighborhood.  He asked Mrs. Bennett what her taxes were.  Mrs. Bennett said $4,700 right now.  They will go up over double with the new house.

 

Mrs. Morrissey said at the last meeting she remembers the apartment being rented since 1975.  This evening you are saying 1968.  Mrs. Bennett said she has found out more information.  It is 1968.

 

Mr. Clayton asked if they would deed restrict the apartment to only rent to 1 – 2 people.

 

8:32 P.M. The Board recessed.

 

8:42 the meeting resumed.

 

Mr. Clayton said the aerial map should be entered into evidence.

 

Entered into evidence:

 

A-18    Aerial map dating back to 1969

 

Mr. Addonizio asked if BOCA rules surpass township ordinances.  Attorney Hirsch said they are two different areas of the law.  He stated Municipal Land Use Law does not give the Board anything to go on. 

 

Mr. Maczuga read 400C3B.  Attorney Hirsch explained the ordinance.  Attorney Hirsch read Mr. Kirk’s letter.

 

Mrs. Bennett said they went to the Building Department before they purchased the property

 

Attorney Hirsch asked Mrs. Bennett if she asked the Building Department if they could rebuild.  Mrs. Bennett said we asked if we could square it off and add a second story.  The Building

Department told her there was no problem.  Attorney Hirsch asked when did they go to the Building Department.  Mrs. Bennett said January 2000.


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Attorney Middleton asked if she told them they were going to build a bigger house.  Mrs. Bennett said she told them they wanted to build a bigger house.  Attorney Middleton asked if she got the statements in writing.  Mrs. Bennett said no. 

 

Attorney Middleton, regarding the A-5 photo, said the garage apartment has two bays and what appears to be a third.  It appears to be living space.  He asked if they replaced one of the bays with a door.  Mrs. Bennett said yes.

 

Attorney Middleton asked if behind the garage door is there a bay.  Mrs. Bennett said yes.

 

Attorney Middleton asked if anyone was living there.  Mrs. Bennett said no. 

 

Attorney Middleton, regarding Mr. Kirk’s letter, said his only comment is if the Board is going to rely on Mr. Kirk’s report that the house is only partially destroyed he would like the opportunity to speak to Mr. Kirk.  He also would like his client, Mr. McAllen, to be able to go into the house and take a look around. 

 

Mr. Addonizio asked Attorney Middleton why didn’t he ask Mr. Kirk to attend the meeting when he received the report.  Attorney Middleton said he just received the report.

 

Mr. Addonizio stated if Attorney Middleton has an outside expert come in and testify the numbers will be different.  Mr. Addonizio said he is comfortable with Mr. Kirk’s report.

 

Attorney Middleton said he thinks Mr. Kirk rendered his report with the understanding that the 50% was the issue. 

 

Attorney Hirsch said the applicant can still ask for the same relief.  Even if the Board denies the application they can still have two residents on the lot. 

 

Mr. Grasso said there are a few problems with this application.  He said this application does not conform with the neighborhood.  He said the applicant can live in the garage apartment until the new structure is complete and then the garage apartment should be demolished.  The new structure would then look like it belongs.

 

Mrs. Bennett stated after the new house is finished she would not be able to afford the taxes.  She stated there is a personal hardship.  Mr. Grasso said if they tear down the garage apartment the taxes will be different.

 

Mrs. DeSarno asked Mrs. Bennett about the living quarters downstairs in the garage apartment.  Mrs. Bennett said it is a concrete floor.  It is not finished. 

 

Mr. Rembiszewski asked if Mrs. Bennett went to the Building Department on her own.  Mrs. Bennett said she went with her husband.

 

Mr. Maczuga asked if it was made clear to the Building Department that there were two structures on the lot.  Mr. Bennett said yes.  Mr. Clayton said the Building Department had to know that.  They had to go inspect it after the fire.


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Mrs. DeSarno asked if they applied for a permit and then was told you had to go before the Board.  Mrs. Bennett said when she went for a demolition permit she was told she had to go before the Board. 

 

Robert McAllen, 12010 Remsen Mill Road, was sworn. 

 

Attorney Middleton asked Mr. McAllen where he lived in relationship to the property in question.  Mr. McAllen said two houses down.  He said his wife owns the house which is directly across the street.  We are within 200 feet.  He said he objects to this application.  He stated what is on the property is not in keeping with the neighborhood.  The homes there now are larger.  He stated he does not believe a two dwelling residence belongs in this neighborhood.  He said the Board has to consider what impact it has on the neighborhood.  He said there is no hardship here.  He said it does put a hardship on the residents.

 

Attorney Middleton asked Mr. McAllen if his concern was that the applicant would build a home larger than what is there now.  Mr. McAllen said he wishes they would build a new home.  He said it is very hard to control the number of people in an apartment.  Mr. McAllen asked if there were any permits issued because there is an enormous amount of fill being brought in.  He said they should demolish the structure and build a house then demolish the garage apartment. 

 

Mrs. DeSarno said if they can rebuild the existing house would you prefer to see that instead of a new home.   Mr. McAllen said they should take the three car garage and incorporate it into the design of the new home.

 

Mr. Addonizio asked if you could limit the ad for the apartment to single professional, no kids.  Attorney Hirsch said the Board can place a restriction on the approval but it would be very hard to enforce. 

 

Mr. Clayton asked Mr. McAllen how long he lived in that neighborhood.  Mr. McAllen said since 1982.  Mr. Clayton asked if Mr. McAllen researched the area and did he know the two dwelling residence was in the neighborhood. 

 

Mrs. Bennett asked Mr. McAllen if there were any other mother-daughter homes in the neighborhood.  Mr. McAllen said no.

 

Mrs. DeSarno asked the applicant if they would be willing to change the roof lines.  Mrs. Bennett said they have no objection to that. 

 

Attorney Hirsch explained what the Board has to consider in this application.  The Board has to decide if there is a pre-existing non-conforming use on this property.  They have to decide if this use was once legal.  Whether or not there was total destruction of the primary dwelling and whether it can be rebuilt or whether they have lost the pre-existing non-conforming use.  He stated if the Board was to approve this application Attorney Middleton can file an appeal.  He suggested to the Board that Mr. Kirk come to a meeting and have Attorney Middleton question him. 


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Mrs. DeSarno said this application should be carried.  Mrs. Morrissey said she agreed.  Mrs. Morrissey asked Mr. Maczuga if he felt Mr. Kirk should be at the next meeting.  Mr. Maczuga said yes.  Mr. Addonizio also felt Mr. Kirk should be at the next meeting.  Mr. Rembiszewski also went along with the Board members regarding Mr. Kirk. 

 

Chairman Noorigian said the application will be carried to January 9, 2002.

 

Attorney Middleton asked if he could have his own professional go to the house.  Mr. Clayton said he did not think that was necessary. 

 

Mr. Addonizio said Mr. Kirk has given an unbiased opinion.  He said if Mr. McAllen hired someone they would go in Mr. McAllen’s favor. 

 

Mrs. Bennett said she does not understand why she has to allow someone on her property from the objector. 

 

Mr. Brosnan said the applicant can hire their own inspector.  Attorney Hirsch said they are free to call any witnesses they want. 

 

Chairman Noorigian said the application will be carried to January 9, 2002. 

 

Attorney Hirsch stated no further noticing is required.

 

Mr. & Mrs. Bennett waived the time limits.

 

10:05 P.M. the Board recessed.

 

10:20 the Meeting resumed.

 

CASE #16-2001:  Date application complete:  May 16, 2001.  Carried from July 18, 2001, September 5, 2001 and October 18, 2001

 

APPLICANT:  PLASTI-CLAD METAL PRODUCTS

 

PROPERTY:  Highway 34 and Ridgewood Road, Block 806, Lot 5, OR-5 Zone

 

RELIEF REQUESTED:  Site Plan, Use Variance, Bulk Variance

 

Mark Aikens, Esq. appeared for the applicant.

 

Attorney Aikens explained this property is located on Ridgewood Road.   Plasti-Clad has been in existence for 50 years.  The applicant is proposing to construct an 18,000 s.f. building expansion in two phases.  There will be no additional employees.  The material stored in the yard will be stored in the warehouse.

 

Pearse Mackle, Birdsall Engineering gave his qualifications.  The Board accepted his qualifications.


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Attorney Aikens gave an environmental history of the site.  The applicant will provide a synopsis of the environmental site history. 

 

Mr. Mackle explained in 1982 the EPA stopped their direct discharge of process water into the ground.  Plasti-Clad no longer discharges into the ground.  Plasti-Clad installed a system that draws groundwater from the ground into a treatment system.  The excess chromium and zinc is extracted, stored in dumpsters and taken away by a licensed hauler.  Quarterly and annual reports are sent to the NJDEP.  The NJDEP said the treatment plant is in compliance.  They have been below the standards 50% of the time.  The monitoring is done on site. 

 

Mr. Gerken suggested getting acknowledgement from the DEP that the proposed detention basin would not have any negative impact on the adjacent property.  Attorney Aikens said he has no problem with that.  Mr. Gerken asked for the applicant to get something from DEP before the next meeting.  Attorney Hirsch stated the Board wants you to be able to testify that you discussed this with the DEP and there is no impact on the remediation. 

 

Mrs. DeSarno asked if the treatment material is stored in 50 gallon drums.  Mr. Mackle said in a large container.  Mrs. DeSarno asked if there was only one storage unit on site.  Mr. Mackle said just one.  Mrs. DeSarno asked what happens when it is filled.  Mr. Mackle said they change it and keep the process going.

 

Mr. Cinelli asked, since 1982 has there been any DEP concerns.  Mr. Mackle said no.  Mr. Cinelli asked if the DEP knew of this application.  Mr. Mackle said he did not know.  He would find out.  Mr. Cinelli said he would like to know how the DEP would react to this.  Attorney Aikens said he would make the call to the DEP. 

 

Mr. Grasso asked if the report that was submitted show that the remediation has cleared up.  Mr. Mackle said he did not put anything like that together.  The levels have been reduced.  Attorney Aikens said the DEP has jurisdiction regarding bench markings. 

 

Mr. Grasso asked if there was a log where the applicant had kept records.  Attorney Aikens said they can talk to the DEP and see if they have a record.  We submit the data to them.  The applicant does not have a log.

 

Mr. Grasso asked if they knew where the outside wells were and how many.  Mr. Mackle said there are 4 or 5.  He never visited them.  Mr. Grasso asked for the location of the wells.  Mr. Mackle said they are marked on the map. 

 

Mr. Grasso asked if any permits were required from the DEP.  Mr. Mackle said as far as the treatment system is concerned, no.

 

Mr. Grasso asked who monitors the wells.  Mr. Mackle said J.R. Henderson Labs.

 

Mr. Grasso asked for some sort of graft from 1982 to present.  He would like to see the improvements. 


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Attorney Hirsch stated DEP has jurisdiction.  This is regulated by DEP.  It is monitored by DEP.  The Board has a right to see the EIS, which has been prepared. 

 

Mr. Cinelli asked if they are going to clean up the site.  He asked for a landscaping design be submitted to the Board.  Attorney Aikens that would be part of the site plan. 

 

Mr. Brosnan asked about new jobs.  Attorney Aikens said no new employees are proposed.

 

Chairman Noorigian stated this application will be carried to January 16, 2002.

 

RESOLUTIONS TO BE ADOPTED:

 

BLAIR AND ROBERTA QUIN – BA#26-2001

Block 227, Lot 10                                                        Brosnan/Cinelli

 

MINUTES TO BE APPROVED:  Mr. Clayton moved to approve the minutes of the Work Shop and Regular Meeting of November 7, 2001.  Mr. Rembiszewski seconded the motion, which was unanimously approved.

 

There being no further business to come before the Board, a motion was made, seconded, and unanimously approved to adjourn the meeting at 11:10 P.M. 

 

                                                                        Respectfully submitted,

 

 

                                                                        Betty Schinestuhl

                    Recording Secretary